In 1971, John F. Kerry testified on the Hill about what he said were atrocities committed in Vietnam by our Armed Forces. In 1972, he was ashamed of his service and discarded his medals. Constitution also has the power to declare war. there is, it comes from people who are almost exhausted by
up hills because a general said that hill has to be taken, and
On April 22, 1971 John F. Kerry, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran and member of the Executive Committee of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, read the following statement to Senator William J. Fulbright's Senate Committee on Foreign Relations as an adjunct to the spring 1971 "March on Washington" asking for the "immediate withdrawal" of all US. George E. Smith, he claims "I usually had more food than I could eat," although he would often grow ill from intolerance. this table they would be here and present the same kind of
 Nixon aides formed the Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, according to Colson, as a "counterfoil" to Kerry and the VVAW, and they did everything they could to boost the group. The CCI leaders refused to work with Lane further and gave the VVAW leaders a "Lane or us" ultimatum. own personal symbol -- and we cannot consider ourselves
Scott Shimabukuro, Racism Panel. the incredible arrogance of Vietnamizing the Vietnamese. Kerry described the Winter Soldier event in Detroit as “an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.” without a leg, without an arm, or a face, and small boys
In recent years, ... John Kerry. But for us, as boys in Asia
Opening slate: On January 31, 1971, John Kerry organized the Winter Soldier Investigations, a media event that falsely accused American soldiers of routinely raping, torturing, and murdering innocent Vietnamese civilians. thirty years from now our brothers go down the street
, One WSI participant, Jamie Henry, had reported the massacre he described at the hearings to the Army, which investigated and subsequently confirmed his story. But why?  Many veterans testified that black soldiers were demeaned by platoon leaders and refusal to comply to orders often led to beatings and starvation, and black soldiers were intentionally endangered by being placed as "point, rearguards, and side-guards". "Let's destroy this young demagogue before he becomes another Ralph Nader," he wrote, referring to Kerry.. allowing that to go on for many years to come. found that not only was it a civil war, an effort by people who
I would like to say for the record, and for the men behind me who are also wearing the uniform and their medals, that my being here is really symbolic.  Portions of the testimony, as well as some photos of the event, appear in a book produced by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and John Kerry entitled The New Soldier. war when we are more guilty than any other body of violations
A special panel of psychiatrists was convened, many of whom had served in Vietnam, to discuss the impact of the war on American society. (2000, February). [But what else can we expect from a group of KENNEDY protege(s)]
Pitkin also signed a 2004 affidavit making similar claims about Kerry, but after being challenged by other participants, admitted that his recollections were flawed. at a particular time, be it Viet Cong, North Vietnamese, or
in order to save them.
have done and all that they can do by this denial is to
This announcement was received with skepticism by the veterans, but VVAW representatives agreed to meet with McGovern and Conyers..
The three days of testimony was presented by unit: Other veterans testified to the treatment they received when held captive as POWs by the Vietcong (VC). With legal advice from the Center for Constitutional Rights, the organizers were assured that the armed forces could not charge or try veterans for crimes committed while they were on active duty. A documentary film of the event, called Winter Soldier, was first released in February 1972 at the Cinema 2 theater in the Whitney Museum in Manhattan, New York. It is
Declassified Defense Department documents indicate that we knew the team had been captured, but, nevertheless, by the beginning of 1965, only months later, the Defense Department had declared the entire team dead and paid small death benefits to their next of kin. Two of the discussion panels conducted with veterans during the Winter Soldier Investigations centered on racism in the American military.
"He's using the points of their investigation that fit his purposes," Bolt said.". However, several journalists and a film crew recorded the event, and a documentary film called Winter Soldier was released in 1972.
Where are they now that we,
and blacks provided the highest percentage of casualties.
The purpose of the Winter Soldier Investigation was to show that American policies in Vietnam had led to war crimes. Complete Kerry / O'Neill Debate, 06/30/71. The boats loud engine invited ambushes.
It may have taken 36 years to see this despicable man get confronted for slandering the troops in Vietnam– but it was worth it. Have these
The process of declaring the commandos dead on paper was reaffirmed in 1969 by the colonel in charge of the operations for MACSOG, the Military Assistance Command Studies and Observations Group.
 Excerpts from the testimony transcripts: After giving their brief initial statements, a moderator had each of them elaborate upon their testimony, and then the press and observers were given time to ask questions of the veterans. Department of Defense white papers revealed thirteen platoon-sized operations in Laos between January 1971 and April 1972. It was presumed by reporters that this was to separate the participation of veterans from that of people like Mark Lane..
We found that all too often American men were dying in
These men have left all the
Hills and Khesahns and Hill 81s and Fire Base 6s, and so many
Just in time for the Winter Soldiers II which Skye has written about comes this production in which Jason Mattera from Hot Air confronts John Kerry about his lies:.
Then, to know where the term Winter Soldier was coined, we must fast forward one hundred ninety-five years to the Viet Nam War era and listen in on John Kerry, testifying as a member of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, in front of the same body he would one day join, the U.S. Senate. this war is not just a question of war and diplomacy. , Fritz Efaw, a Chapter Representative of VVAW, stated: "The claims that the WSI hearings contained falsified testimony from men who were not veterans is an old one, and it's definitely false. This quickly prompted investigations by American media such as the Detroit Free Press, St. Louis Post-Dispatch and The Boston Globe, which were successful in turning up testimonies from other veterans that they had crossed into Laos throughout a 16-month period extending through all of 1971, well past the enactment of the Cooper–Church Amendment forbidding such actions and which had come into effect in January 1971. same kind of damage on the Vietnamese and Laotian country-
******************************************************, an excerpt from Senator John Kerry (as included in Amendment #4055). , According to Army reports compiled by the Criminal Investigation Command (CID) and later reported by the Village Voice following declassification, the Army found the allegations made by 46 veterans at the hearings to merit further inquiry. ....
And to attempt to justify the
"The President should know that we are continuing the effort to discredit VVAW," Colson assured Haldeman.
The program consisted primarily of testimony, with 109 Vietnam veterans to appear on panels arranged by unit so they could corroborate each other's reports. had for years been seeking their liberation from any colonial
The Defense Department then compounded this tragedy by writing off the lost commandos as dead, apparently in order to avoid paying their monthly salaries.
the AMERICAN PEOLPLE !!! In 1971, John F. Kerry testified on the Hill about what he said were atrocities committed in Vietnam by our Armed Forces. country which fly the flag which so many have chosen as their
The Winter Soldier Investigation (WSI) was intended to prove that massacres like the My Lai were not isolated and rare occurrences, but were instead the frequent and predictable result of official American war policy. armed forces from South Vietnam. A series of benefit productions, Acting in Concert for Peace, were created and featured performances by Jane Fonda, Dick Gregory, Donald Sutherland and Barbara Dane. hypocrisy. We saw that many people in this
The Secretary-Treasurer for the United Auto Workers, Emil Mazey and Michigan Secretary of State Richard Austin also helped raise funds for the event. glamorize the criminal misfits of society while our best men
They only wanted to work in rice paddies without helicopters
That is what we are trying to say. and using that as justification for a continuation of this
---------- What happened when military investigators asked the "winter soldiers" for evidence of all the war crimes they had alleged? 3.0 out of 5 stars Book Review: New Soldier by John Kerry. influence whatsoever, but also we found that the Vietnamese
Lewy wrote that the report stated that some veterans contacted by the NIS said they did not attend the WSI hearing in Detroit or had never been to Detroit, and many refused to be interviewed. Seven of the 142 total participants would provide testimony at both events. and-destroy missions, as well as by Viet Cong terrorism, and
rectitude. But we are here
point for our effort in Vietnam. What was different here was the number of veterans present." , Months before the WSI event, the organizers anticipated heavy scrutiny and attacks on their credibility, and they prepared for it. These
Americans seem to have accepted the idea that the war is
We're going to do this right. " All veterans participating in Winter Soldier were required to bring their discharge papers (DD-214s) and IDs. this country has been unable to see there is absolutely no
We are angry because we feel we have been used in the worst
Less than three months into planning for the Winter Soldier Investigation, most of the Vietnam veteran organizers and Jeremy Rifkin had become adamant that WSI disassociate itself from Mark Lane. end of excerpt(s), Excuse me, but Mr. KERRY,
know the difference between communism and democracy.
The unverified allegations by the original Winter Soldier Investigation were made famous by John Kerry’s congressional testimony where he characterized American soldiers as “razing villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan”. I do not believe this country would dream of using were we
The East Coast papers refused to cover the hearings, other than a New York Times story a week later. Dick Fernandez of Clergy and Laymen Concerned about Vietnam (CALCAV), Mark Lane, and Donald Duncan (who had previously testified at the Russell Tribunal in Denmark). Winter Soldier Investigations, The Sixties Project. Kerry's former brother-in-law, David Thorne, attended the Winter Soldier investigation. Reviewed in the United States on September 9, 2009. hearts, to conquer the hate and fear that have driven
"Kerry never forced anyone to testify to war crimes in any way. . did Lt. John Kerry conduct a PHONY Investigation, with FAKE witnesses into atrocities, that never happened in Vietnam? An example: A six-man team, called Attila, was dropped into Nghe An province on April 25, 1964. The new site is named after the event that helped raise Kerry to prominence in 1971. dying over there -- not just Americans but Vietnamese --
Kerry, John and Vietnam Veterans Against the War (1971). We are asking Americans to think about that because how do
And now we are told that the men who fought there must watch
her hands of Vietnam someone has to give up his life so that
to the people of this country, you can see that he says, and says
, Among the growing collective of organizers, differences of opinion and direction arose concerning the planned public event.
It is a distortion because
yet people have accepted a differentiation fed them by the
Following those principles, we held that if Calley were responsible, so were his superiors up the chain of command — even to the president. Where is the leadership? the United States of America. make more clear than ever our own determination to
Shortly afterward, two American prisoners held in the same camp with Smith are believed to have been executed in reprisal. We are
But believe me the helicopter crews fill the same body bags
We listened while
Although military documentation was provided, some media organizations such as the Detroit News tried to discredit the hearings on the very first day of testimony by questioning the authenticity of the 109 testifying veterans. watched pride allow the most unimportant battles to be blown
alizations, and if you read carefully the President's last speech
fashion by the administration of this country. Post by Joe Blowtowski are these True? small representation of a very much larger group of veterans
 Ultimately, the WSI was an event produced by veterans only, without the need of "so-called experts" such as Lane and Fonda. Smith admitted fearing for his life when he heard Hanoi Radio broadcasts saying VC soldiers were being executed in Saigon and the VC was promising to execute Americans in retaliation.
Post by Joe Blowtowski are these True? The CCI advanced its plans for a December event in Washington, D.C., while the WSI's new organizers continued with the original plan to hold its hearings in Detroit. REMEMBER "their own words" in dealing with, perhaps "another present day VIETNAM"
Well, John Kerry - as you put it over a quarter of a century ago, and I quote you:
of those Geneva Conventions; in the use of free-fire
Arrangements had been made to include the testimony of several expatriated Vietnamese students residing in Canada, but they were denied visas to the United States by the Canadian government.
what we were called on to do in Southeast Asia. 'Winter Soldier' testimony still fuels discontent / Bitterness lingers over young Kerry's Senate appearance Edward Epstein , Chronicle Washington Bureau … It's hardly surprising that those on the other side would set out almost immediately to discredit them.".
of "so called" AMERICANS as they once did during "Our Generation's WAR ?] This page was last edited on 9 December 2020, at 14:05. But the point is that they are not a free people
It was intended to publicize war crimes and atrocities by the United States Armed Forces and their allies in the Vietnam War.
Vietnam and about the mystical war against communism. We rationalized destroying villages
These panels addressed one source of resentment towards the Vietnam War by black soldiers, as "African Americans and Latinos paid a higher human price for the war". havoc on the Viet Cong. The Winter Soldier Investigation changed him and his comrades forever. saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs and search-
“We call this investigation the 'Winter Soldier Investigation.' Despite significant fund raising efforts by supporters of the VVAW, the cost of the Winter Soldier Investigation event financially bankrupted the organization. Steve Pitkin, who participated at the investigation in 1971, now claimed just weeks before the presidential election at an anti-Kerry political rally that he was not originally planning to testify at the WSI, but was pressured by Kerry and others into testifying about rape, brutality, atrocities and racism.
We learned the meaning of free-fire
Now, doesn't this "sound a bit too familar" to what "may be" to come !!!
He recommended consideration be given to forming a special commission that would look into these issues and provide a forum to determine the moral consequences of American involvement in Vietnam. "In our opinion and from our experience, there is nothing in South Vietnam
John O'Neill, representing this group, made public appearances denouncing the antiwar veterans and promoting Nixon's Vietnamization policy. has wiped away their memories of us. The Washington, DC, event would be called The National Veterans Inquiry. Winter Whether By John Prados. who are here in Washington today. fighting in the European theatre. down and shrugged off something as serious as Laos, just as
1 Opening Statement; 2 Statement of John Kerry, Vietnam Veterans Against the War. way that nobody else in this country dared to; because so
Several civilian experts who had been to Vietnam were also to speak during this event. this country these last ten years and more, so when
lie forgotten in Veterans Administration hospitals in this
sense of revulsion, and hence the anger of some of the men
preted those order no differently than hundreds of other men
 Due to the disturbing nature of the subject matter about an ongoing war, it got little distribution and support at that time and had been archived by its creators, collectively called the Winterfilm Collective. He was the premier Code Pinko of his day. thousands of men who have been taught to deal and trade in
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